Subcontractor Module
The Subcontractor Module tracks all work performed by subcontractors: concrete pumping, joint sawing, drilling, and other specialty services. ForgeX includes a comprehensive concrete pump catalog and automatically applies buffer markup.
Common Subcontractor Servicesโ
Concrete Pumping
Most common subcontractor service
Includes:
- Pump truck and operator
- Hose and boom
- Setup and cleanup
- Charged by hour + CY
Joint Sawing
Control joints and saw cuts
Includes:
- Saw and operator
- Blades and fuel
- Layout and cutting
- Charged by linear foot
Core Drilling
Penetrations and anchors
Includes:
- Core drill and bits
- Operator
- Cleanup and patching
- Charged by hole or inch
Specialty Work
Other subcontracted services
Examples:
- Post-tensioning
- Testing and inspection
- Concrete scanning
- Sealing and waterproofing
Adding Subcontractor Itemsโ
Step 1: Navigate to Subcontractor Tabโ
- Open your scope
- Click the "Subcontractor" tab
- Click "Add Subcontractor" button
Step 2: Select Service Typeโ
ForgeX supports two main subcontractor types:
Option A: Pump Service (from catalog)
- Select from comprehensive pump catalog
- Auto-fills rates ($/hour, $/CY, travel cost, minimum hours)
- Most accurate for concrete pumping
Option B: Other Service (manual entry)
- Enter service description
- Enter quantity and rate
- Use for all non-pump subs
Concrete Pumping (from Catalog)โ
Pump Catalog Overviewโ
ForgeX includes a catalog of local concrete pump vendors with current pricing:
Pump Types:
- Boom Pumps: 32m, 38m, 42m, 47m, 52m reach
- Line Pumps: Ground-line pumps for smaller jobs
- Specialty Pumps: High-pressure, trailer-mounted
Selecting a Pumpโ
Select vendor from dropdown (e.g., "ABC Concrete Pumping")
Choose based on reach needed:
- 32m: Standard residential
- 38-42m: Most commercial
- 47-52m: High-rise, long reach
ForgeX displays pump rates:
- Cost per hour: $150-250/hr
- Cost per CY: $8-15/CY (some vendors)
- Travel cost: $200-400
- Minimum hours: 2-4 hours
- Hours: Estimated pump time
- Volume (CY): Total concrete to be pumped
Pump Cost Calculationโ
Hourly_Charge = Hours ร Cost_Per_Hour
Volume_Charge = Volume_CY ร Cost_Per_CY
Base_Cost = Hourly_Charge + Volume_Charge + Travel_Cost
# Apply minimum hours if applicable
If Hours < Minimum_Hours:
Hourly_Charge = Minimum_Hours ร Cost_Per_Hour
Total_Before_Buffer = Hourly_Charge + Volume_Charge + Travel_Cost
Example: 42m Boom Pump
- Vendor: ABC Concrete Pumping
- Hours: 3 hours
- Volume: 150 CY
- Cost per hour: $200/hr
- Cost per CY: $10/CY
- Travel: $300
- Minimum: 2 hours
Calculation:
- Hourly: 3 ร $200 = $600
- Volume: 150 ร $10 = $1,500
- Travel: $300
- Subtotal: $2,400
Buffer Markupโ
ForgeX applies a buffer markup to subcontractor costs to account for:
- Quote fluctuations
- Last-minute changes
- Contingency
Buffer calculation:
Buffer_Amount = Subtotal ร Buffer_Percent
Total_Cost = Subtotal + Buffer_Amount
Example (continued, 10% buffer):
- Subtotal: $2,400
- Buffer (10%): $240
- Total: $2,640
Default buffer is 10% but can be adjusted per item or in bid settings.
Estimating Pump Timeโ
How Long Does Pumping Take?โ
Pumping rate depends on:
- Concrete mix (slump, aggregate size)
- Pump size and line length
- Access and placement complexity
- Crew efficiency
Typical Pumping Rates:
| Scenario | CY per Hour | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Ideal conditions | 60-80 CY/hr | Good access, flat placement |
| Standard slab | 40-60 CY/hr | Normal commercial conditions |
| Elevated deck | 30-50 CY/hr | Higher placement, more careful |
| Complex formwork | 20-40 CY/hr | Walls, columns, congested rebar |
| Long line/high rise | 15-30 CY/hr | Extended reach, slow flow |
Calculating Pump Hoursโ
Hours = Volume_CY รท Pumping_Rate
# Add setup/cleanup time
Total_Hours = Hours + 0.5 to 1 hour
Example: 200 CY elevated slab
- Pumping rate: 40 CY/hr
- Pump time: 200 รท 40 = 5 hours
- Setup/cleanup: 0.5 hour
- Total: 5.5 hours โ 6 hours (round up)
Always round up pump hours. Better to overestimate than pay overtime for pump waiting.
Minimum Hoursโ
Most pump companies have minimum charges:
| Pump Type | Typical Minimum |
|---|---|
| Line pump | 2 hours |
| Small boom (32-38m) | 3 hours |
| Large boom (42m+) | 4 hours |
Example: Small 50 CY pour
- Actual pump time: 1.5 hours
- Minimum: 3 hours
- Billed: 3 hours (you pay minimum)
Joint Sawing Serviceโ
Control joints (saw cuts) prevent random cracking in slabs.
When to Saw Cutโ
Timing: 4-12 hours after pour (when concrete is "green" but firm enough)
Spacing: Depends on slab thickness
- 4" slab: 8-10 ft spacing
- 5" slab: 10-12 ft spacing
- 6" slab: 12-15 ft spacing
- 8" slab: 15-20 ft spacing
Adding Joint Sawingโ
Service: "Joint Sawing" or "Saw Cutting"
For a grid pattern:
Longitudinal_Cuts = (Length รท Spacing) ร Width
Transverse_Cuts = (Width รท Spacing) ร Length
Total_LF = Longitudinal_Cuts + Transverse_Cuts
Example: 100' ร 80' slab, 12' spacing
- Longitudinal: (100 รท 12) ร 80 = 667 LF
- Transverse: (80 รท 12) ร 100 = 667 LF
- Total: 1,334 LF
- Quantity: 1,334 LF
- Rate: $1.25 - $2.00 per LF (typical)
- Cost: $1,668 - $2,668
- Subtotal: $2,000 (using $1.50/LF)
- Buffer (10%): $200
- Total: $2,200
Joint sawing rates vary by:
- Slab thickness (deeper = more expensive)
- Hardness (aggregate type)
- Access (indoor vs outdoor)
- Timing (rush job = premium)
Core Drillingโ
Core drilling creates penetrations for pipes, electrical, HVAC, etc.
Core Drilling Pricingโ
Charged by:
Option A: Per Hole
- Flat rate per hole (typical for standard sizes)
- Example: $75-150 per hole for 4" diameter
Option B: Per Inch
- Charged by diameter ร depth
- Example: $2-5 per inch
- 6" diameter ร 12" deep = 72 inches ร $3 = $216
Adding Core Drillingโ
Review plans for penetrations:
- Plumbing: 4-6" diameter
- Electrical conduit: 2-3" diameter
- HVAC: 8-12" diameter
- Equipment anchors: 1-2" diameter
- 2" holes: 15 qty
- 4" holes: 8 qty
- 6" holes: 4 qty
- 12" holes: 2 qty
Item 1: 2" Core Drilling
- Quantity: 15
- Rate: $50/hole
- Cost: $750
Item 2: 4" Core Drilling
- Quantity: 8
- Rate: $100/hole
- Cost: $800
(Continue for all sizes)
- Subtotal: $2,200 (all holes)
- Buffer (10%): $220
- Total: $2,420
Get quotes early: Core drilling pricing varies significantly between vendors. Get 2-3 quotes for large quantities.
Other Subcontractor Servicesโ
Post-Tensioningโ
For elevated decks with post-tension cables:
Pricing:
- Charged per pound of cable
- Or per square foot of deck
- Typical: $2-4 per SF
Example: 5,000 SF deck
- Rate: $2.50/SF
- Cost: 5,000 ร $2.50 = $12,500
Testing & Inspectionโ
Required by building codes:
Services:
- Concrete slump testing: $75-150 per test
- Cylinder breaks (28-day): $50-100 per set
- Rebar inspection: $500-1,000 per day
- Soil compaction: $200-400 per test
Example: Commercial slab
- Slump tests (3): $300
- Cylinders (6 sets): $450
- Rebar inspection (1 day): $750
- Total: $1,500
Concrete Scanningโ
GPR (ground-penetrating radar) scanning to locate rebar, PT cables, conduits:
Pricing:
- Hourly: $150-250/hr
- Per SF: $2-5/SF
- Minimum: $500-1,000
Sealing & Waterproofingโ
For below-grade walls, foundations:
Pricing:
- Waterproofing membrane: $2-6 per SF
- Sealant application: $1-3 per LF
Subcontractor Waste Factorโ
Unlike materials, subcontractor services don't typically have "waste," but you should consider:
When to Add Bufferโ
High buffer (15-20%):
- First-time vendor (unknown reliability)
- Complex work (high risk of overruns)
- Rush timeline (premium pricing likely)
- Volatile pricing (fuel surcharges, etc.)
Standard buffer (10-12%):
- Established vendor relationship
- Standard work
- Normal timeline
- Stable pricing
Low buffer (5-8%):
- Long-term vendor partnership
- Simple, straightforward work
- Firm quote with locked pricing
- Large volume (negotiated rates)
Buffer is NOT the same as profit margin. Buffer is a contingency within the subcontractor cost. Your overall profit is applied later in the cost rollup.
Getting Subcontractor Quotesโ
Quote Request Processโ
- Provide plans and specifications
- Indicate scope of work clearly
- Specify timeline and milestones
- Request quote by specific date
Get quotes from 2-3 vendors minimum
Compare:
- Price (not just total, but unit costs)
- Scope (what's included vs excluded)
- Timeline (can they meet schedule?)
- References (past project experience)
Ask questions:
- Does price include mobilization?
- Is travel time included?
- What are payment terms?
- Are there minimums or maximums?
- What's the quote valid until?
- Use actual quoted price
- Note quote expiration date
- Reference quote number in description
- Apply appropriate buffer
Quote Comparison Exampleโ
Concrete Pumping for 200 CY Pour:
| Vendor | Hourly | Per CY | Travel | Minimum | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ABC Pumping | $200/hr | $10/CY | $300 | 3 hr | $3,300 |
| XYZ Pumps | $180/hr | $12/CY | $350 | 4 hr | $3,470 |
| Best Pump Co | $225/hr | $8/CY | $250 | 2 hr | $3,200 |
Winner: Best Pump Co (lowest total)
Common Subcontractor Scenariosโ
Scenario 1: Residential Slab Pumpโ
Job: 75 CY house slab, good access
- Vendor: ABC Concrete Pumping
- Pump: 32m Boom
- Volume: 75 CY
- Rate: 60 CY/hr (good conditions)
- Pump time: 75 รท 60 = 1.25 hours
- Setup/cleanup: 0.5 hour
- Total: 1.75 hours โ 2 hours
- Minimum: 3 hours
- Billed: 3 hours (minimum applies)
- Hourly: 3 ร $180 = $540
- Volume: 75 ร $10 = $750
- Travel: $300
- Subtotal: $1,590
- Buffer (10%): $159
- Total: $1,749
Scenario 2: Elevated Deck with Jointsโ
Job: 10,000 SF elevated deck, 6" thick, 150 CY
- Pump: 42m Boom (high reach)
- Hours: 150 รท 35 (slower) + 1 = 5.3 โ 6 hours
- Hourly: 6 ร $200 = $1,200
- Volume: 150 ร $12 = $1,800
- Travel: $350
- Subtotal: $3,350
- Buffer: $335
- Pump Total: $3,685
- Spacing: 12 ft
- Length cuts: (200 รท 12) ร 50 = 833 LF
- Width cuts: (50 รท 12) ร 200 = 833 LF
- Total: 1,666 LF
- Rate: $1.75/LF (6" thick)
- Subtotal: $2,916
- Buffer: $292
- Sawing Total: $3,208
- Pumping: $3,685
- Sawing: $3,208
- Total: $6,893
Scenario 3: Commercial Project with Testingโ
Job: Large commercial slab, multiple tests required
(Same as previous examples)
- Total: $5,000
Slump Tests:
- Quantity: 5 tests
- Rate: $100/test
- Cost: $500
Cylinder Breaks:
- Quantity: 8 sets
- Rate: $75/set
- Cost: $600
Rebar Inspection:
-
Quantity: 2 days
-
Rate: $800/day
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Cost: $1,600
-
Subtotal: $2,700
-
Buffer: $270
-
Testing Total: $2,970
- Pumping: $5,000
- Testing: $2,970
- Total: $7,970
Subcontractor Module Tipsโ
๐Get Multiple Quotes
Always get 2-3 quotes for:
- Pumping (if volume > 100 CY)
- Joint sawing (if LF > 500)
- Core drilling (if holes > 10)
- Specialty services (post-tensioning, etc.)
Savings potential: 10-20% by comparing quotes
๐ Verify Quote Expiration
Subcontractor quotes typically valid for:
- 30 days: Standard
- 60 days: Large projects
- 90 days: Long-term commitments
What to do:
- Note expiration in item description
- Reconfirm pricing if bid submission delayed
- Get updated quotes if needed
๐คBuild Vendor Relationships
Repeat business = better pricing:
- Use same vendors when possible
- Pay invoices promptly
- Provide accurate volume estimates
- Communicate schedule changes early
Result: Preferential pricing, priority scheduling
๐Don't Forget Mobilization
Some subs charge separately for:
- Mobilization/demobilization
- Equipment transport
- Setup time
Ask: "Is mobilization included in your quote?"
Cost Rollupโ
Subcontractor costs roll up like all modules:
Individual Subcontractor Item (with buffer)
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Scope Subcontractor Cost
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Scope Subcontractor Cost ร Multiplier
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Bid Subcontractor Cost (sum all scopes)
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Apply Module Markups (overhead, profit)
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Bid Total
Typical Subcontractor % of Total Bidโ
| Job Type | Subcontractor % | Main Services |
|---|---|---|
| Simple slab | 10-15% | Pumping, sawing |
| Elevated deck | 15-25% | Pumping, sawing, post-tension |
| High-rise | 20-30% | Pumping, testing, specialty |
| Complex | 25-35% | Multiple specialty subs |
Common Subcontractor Mistakesโ
Avoid These Pitfalls:
| Mistake | Impact | Fix |
|---|---|---|
| Using expired quotes | Price no longer valid | Verify quote expiration, get new quote |
| Underestimating pump time | Pump sits idle, you pay | Round up hours, add setup time |
| Forgetting minimum hours | Cost higher than expected | Check vendor minimums |
| Not applying buffer | Quote increases eat profit | Always apply 10-15% buffer |
| Skipping joint sawing | Slab cracks randomly | Calculate joints based on spacing |
| Missing travel costs | Hidden $200-500 cost | Ask "Is travel included?" |
| Double-counting equipment | Equipment in two modules | Sub-provided equipment NOT in Equipment Module |