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Subcontractor Module

The Subcontractor Module tracks all work performed by subcontractors: concrete pumping, joint sawing, drilling, and other specialty services. ForgeX includes a comprehensive concrete pump catalog and automatically applies buffer markup.


Common Subcontractor Servicesโ€‹

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Concrete Pumping

Most common subcontractor service

Includes:

  • Pump truck and operator
  • Hose and boom
  • Setup and cleanup
  • Charged by hour + CY
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Joint Sawing

Control joints and saw cuts

Includes:

  • Saw and operator
  • Blades and fuel
  • Layout and cutting
  • Charged by linear foot
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Core Drilling

Penetrations and anchors

Includes:

  • Core drill and bits
  • Operator
  • Cleanup and patching
  • Charged by hole or inch
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Specialty Work

Other subcontracted services

Examples:

  • Post-tensioning
  • Testing and inspection
  • Concrete scanning
  • Sealing and waterproofing

Adding Subcontractor Itemsโ€‹

Step 1: Navigate to Subcontractor Tabโ€‹

  1. Open your scope
  2. Click the "Subcontractor" tab
  3. Click "Add Subcontractor" button

Step 2: Select Service Typeโ€‹

ForgeX supports two main subcontractor types:

Option A: Pump Service (from catalog)

  • Select from comprehensive pump catalog
  • Auto-fills rates ($/hour, $/CY, travel cost, minimum hours)
  • Most accurate for concrete pumping

Option B: Other Service (manual entry)

  • Enter service description
  • Enter quantity and rate
  • Use for all non-pump subs

Concrete Pumping (from Catalog)โ€‹

Pump Catalog Overviewโ€‹

ForgeX includes a catalog of local concrete pump vendors with current pricing:

Pump Types:

  • Boom Pumps: 32m, 38m, 42m, 47m, 52m reach
  • Line Pumps: Ground-line pumps for smaller jobs
  • Specialty Pumps: High-pressure, trailer-mounted

Selecting a Pumpโ€‹

1
Choose Vendor

Select vendor from dropdown (e.g., "ABC Concrete Pumping")

2
Select Pump Size

Choose based on reach needed:

  • 32m: Standard residential
  • 38-42m: Most commercial
  • 47-52m: High-rise, long reach
3
Review Rates

ForgeX displays pump rates:

  • Cost per hour: $150-250/hr
  • Cost per CY: $8-15/CY (some vendors)
  • Travel cost: $200-400
  • Minimum hours: 2-4 hours
4
Enter Hours and Volume
  • Hours: Estimated pump time
  • Volume (CY): Total concrete to be pumped

Pump Cost Calculationโ€‹

Hourly_Charge = Hours ร— Cost_Per_Hour
Volume_Charge = Volume_CY ร— Cost_Per_CY
Base_Cost = Hourly_Charge + Volume_Charge + Travel_Cost

# Apply minimum hours if applicable
If Hours < Minimum_Hours:
Hourly_Charge = Minimum_Hours ร— Cost_Per_Hour

Total_Before_Buffer = Hourly_Charge + Volume_Charge + Travel_Cost

Example: 42m Boom Pump

  • Vendor: ABC Concrete Pumping
  • Hours: 3 hours
  • Volume: 150 CY
  • Cost per hour: $200/hr
  • Cost per CY: $10/CY
  • Travel: $300
  • Minimum: 2 hours

Calculation:

  • Hourly: 3 ร— $200 = $600
  • Volume: 150 ร— $10 = $1,500
  • Travel: $300
  • Subtotal: $2,400

Buffer Markupโ€‹

ForgeX applies a buffer markup to subcontractor costs to account for:

  • Quote fluctuations
  • Last-minute changes
  • Contingency

Buffer calculation:

Buffer_Amount = Subtotal ร— Buffer_Percent
Total_Cost = Subtotal + Buffer_Amount

Example (continued, 10% buffer):

  • Subtotal: $2,400
  • Buffer (10%): $240
  • Total: $2,640
note

Default buffer is 10% but can be adjusted per item or in bid settings.


Estimating Pump Timeโ€‹

How Long Does Pumping Take?โ€‹

Pumping rate depends on:

  • Concrete mix (slump, aggregate size)
  • Pump size and line length
  • Access and placement complexity
  • Crew efficiency

Typical Pumping Rates:

ScenarioCY per HourNotes
Ideal conditions60-80 CY/hrGood access, flat placement
Standard slab40-60 CY/hrNormal commercial conditions
Elevated deck30-50 CY/hrHigher placement, more careful
Complex formwork20-40 CY/hrWalls, columns, congested rebar
Long line/high rise15-30 CY/hrExtended reach, slow flow

Calculating Pump Hoursโ€‹

Hours = Volume_CY รท Pumping_Rate
# Add setup/cleanup time
Total_Hours = Hours + 0.5 to 1 hour

Example: 200 CY elevated slab

  • Pumping rate: 40 CY/hr
  • Pump time: 200 รท 40 = 5 hours
  • Setup/cleanup: 0.5 hour
  • Total: 5.5 hours โ†’ 6 hours (round up)
tip

Always round up pump hours. Better to overestimate than pay overtime for pump waiting.

Minimum Hoursโ€‹

Most pump companies have minimum charges:

Pump TypeTypical Minimum
Line pump2 hours
Small boom (32-38m)3 hours
Large boom (42m+)4 hours

Example: Small 50 CY pour

  • Actual pump time: 1.5 hours
  • Minimum: 3 hours
  • Billed: 3 hours (you pay minimum)

Joint Sawing Serviceโ€‹

Control joints (saw cuts) prevent random cracking in slabs.

When to Saw Cutโ€‹

Timing: 4-12 hours after pour (when concrete is "green" but firm enough)

Spacing: Depends on slab thickness

  • 4" slab: 8-10 ft spacing
  • 5" slab: 10-12 ft spacing
  • 6" slab: 12-15 ft spacing
  • 8" slab: 15-20 ft spacing

Adding Joint Sawingโ€‹

1
Select Service Type

Service: "Joint Sawing" or "Saw Cutting"

2
Calculate Linear Feet

For a grid pattern:

Longitudinal_Cuts = (Length รท Spacing) ร— Width
Transverse_Cuts = (Width รท Spacing) ร— Length
Total_LF = Longitudinal_Cuts + Transverse_Cuts

Example: 100' ร— 80' slab, 12' spacing

  • Longitudinal: (100 รท 12) ร— 80 = 667 LF
  • Transverse: (80 รท 12) ร— 100 = 667 LF
  • Total: 1,334 LF
3
Enter Quantity and Rate
  • Quantity: 1,334 LF
  • Rate: $1.25 - $2.00 per LF (typical)
  • Cost: $1,668 - $2,668
4
Apply Buffer
  • Subtotal: $2,000 (using $1.50/LF)
  • Buffer (10%): $200
  • Total: $2,200

Joint sawing rates vary by:

  • Slab thickness (deeper = more expensive)
  • Hardness (aggregate type)
  • Access (indoor vs outdoor)
  • Timing (rush job = premium)

Core Drillingโ€‹

Core drilling creates penetrations for pipes, electrical, HVAC, etc.

Core Drilling Pricingโ€‹

Charged by:

Option A: Per Hole

  • Flat rate per hole (typical for standard sizes)
  • Example: $75-150 per hole for 4" diameter

Option B: Per Inch

  • Charged by diameter ร— depth
  • Example: $2-5 per inch
  • 6" diameter ร— 12" deep = 72 inches ร— $3 = $216

Adding Core Drillingโ€‹

1
Count Holes from Plans

Review plans for penetrations:

  • Plumbing: 4-6" diameter
  • Electrical conduit: 2-3" diameter
  • HVAC: 8-12" diameter
  • Equipment anchors: 1-2" diameter
2
Group by Size
  • 2" holes: 15 qty
  • 4" holes: 8 qty
  • 6" holes: 4 qty
  • 12" holes: 2 qty
3
Enter as Separate Items

Item 1: 2" Core Drilling

  • Quantity: 15
  • Rate: $50/hole
  • Cost: $750

Item 2: 4" Core Drilling

  • Quantity: 8
  • Rate: $100/hole
  • Cost: $800

(Continue for all sizes)

4
Add Buffer
  • Subtotal: $2,200 (all holes)
  • Buffer (10%): $220
  • Total: $2,420
tip

Get quotes early: Core drilling pricing varies significantly between vendors. Get 2-3 quotes for large quantities.


Other Subcontractor Servicesโ€‹

Post-Tensioningโ€‹

For elevated decks with post-tension cables:

Pricing:

  • Charged per pound of cable
  • Or per square foot of deck
  • Typical: $2-4 per SF

Example: 5,000 SF deck

  • Rate: $2.50/SF
  • Cost: 5,000 ร— $2.50 = $12,500

Testing & Inspectionโ€‹

Required by building codes:

Services:

  • Concrete slump testing: $75-150 per test
  • Cylinder breaks (28-day): $50-100 per set
  • Rebar inspection: $500-1,000 per day
  • Soil compaction: $200-400 per test

Example: Commercial slab

  • Slump tests (3): $300
  • Cylinders (6 sets): $450
  • Rebar inspection (1 day): $750
  • Total: $1,500

Concrete Scanningโ€‹

GPR (ground-penetrating radar) scanning to locate rebar, PT cables, conduits:

Pricing:

  • Hourly: $150-250/hr
  • Per SF: $2-5/SF
  • Minimum: $500-1,000

Sealing & Waterproofingโ€‹

For below-grade walls, foundations:

Pricing:

  • Waterproofing membrane: $2-6 per SF
  • Sealant application: $1-3 per LF

Subcontractor Waste Factorโ€‹

Unlike materials, subcontractor services don't typically have "waste," but you should consider:

When to Add Bufferโ€‹

High buffer (15-20%):

  • First-time vendor (unknown reliability)
  • Complex work (high risk of overruns)
  • Rush timeline (premium pricing likely)
  • Volatile pricing (fuel surcharges, etc.)

Standard buffer (10-12%):

  • Established vendor relationship
  • Standard work
  • Normal timeline
  • Stable pricing

Low buffer (5-8%):

  • Long-term vendor partnership
  • Simple, straightforward work
  • Firm quote with locked pricing
  • Large volume (negotiated rates)
note

Buffer is NOT the same as profit margin. Buffer is a contingency within the subcontractor cost. Your overall profit is applied later in the cost rollup.


Getting Subcontractor Quotesโ€‹

Quote Request Processโ€‹

1
Send RFI (Request for Information)
  • Provide plans and specifications
  • Indicate scope of work clearly
  • Specify timeline and milestones
  • Request quote by specific date
2
Receive Quotes

Get quotes from 2-3 vendors minimum

Compare:

  • Price (not just total, but unit costs)
  • Scope (what's included vs excluded)
  • Timeline (can they meet schedule?)
  • References (past project experience)
3
Clarify Scope

Ask questions:

  • Does price include mobilization?
  • Is travel time included?
  • What are payment terms?
  • Are there minimums or maximums?
  • What's the quote valid until?
4
Enter in ForgeX
  • Use actual quoted price
  • Note quote expiration date
  • Reference quote number in description
  • Apply appropriate buffer

Quote Comparison Exampleโ€‹

Concrete Pumping for 200 CY Pour:

VendorHourlyPer CYTravelMinimumTotal
ABC Pumping$200/hr$10/CY$3003 hr$3,300
XYZ Pumps$180/hr$12/CY$3504 hr$3,470
Best Pump Co$225/hr$8/CY$2502 hr$3,200

Winner: Best Pump Co (lowest total)


Common Subcontractor Scenariosโ€‹

Scenario 1: Residential Slab Pumpโ€‹

Job: 75 CY house slab, good access

1
Select Pump
  • Vendor: ABC Concrete Pumping
  • Pump: 32m Boom
2
Estimate Time
  • Volume: 75 CY
  • Rate: 60 CY/hr (good conditions)
  • Pump time: 75 รท 60 = 1.25 hours
  • Setup/cleanup: 0.5 hour
  • Total: 1.75 hours โ†’ 2 hours
3
Check Minimum
  • Minimum: 3 hours
  • Billed: 3 hours (minimum applies)
4
Calculate Cost
  • Hourly: 3 ร— $180 = $540
  • Volume: 75 ร— $10 = $750
  • Travel: $300
  • Subtotal: $1,590
  • Buffer (10%): $159
  • Total: $1,749

Scenario 2: Elevated Deck with Jointsโ€‹

Job: 10,000 SF elevated deck, 6" thick, 150 CY

1
Concrete Pumping
  • Pump: 42m Boom (high reach)
  • Hours: 150 รท 35 (slower) + 1 = 5.3 โ†’ 6 hours
  • Hourly: 6 ร— $200 = $1,200
  • Volume: 150 ร— $12 = $1,800
  • Travel: $350
  • Subtotal: $3,350
  • Buffer: $335
  • Pump Total: $3,685
2
Joint Sawing
  • Spacing: 12 ft
  • Length cuts: (200 รท 12) ร— 50 = 833 LF
  • Width cuts: (50 รท 12) ร— 200 = 833 LF
  • Total: 1,666 LF
  • Rate: $1.75/LF (6" thick)
  • Subtotal: $2,916
  • Buffer: $292
  • Sawing Total: $3,208
3
Total Subcontractor
  • Pumping: $3,685
  • Sawing: $3,208
  • Total: $6,893

Scenario 3: Commercial Project with Testingโ€‹

Job: Large commercial slab, multiple tests required

1
Concrete Pumping

(Same as previous examples)

  • Total: $5,000
2
Testing Services

Slump Tests:

  • Quantity: 5 tests
  • Rate: $100/test
  • Cost: $500

Cylinder Breaks:

  • Quantity: 8 sets
  • Rate: $75/set
  • Cost: $600

Rebar Inspection:

  • Quantity: 2 days

  • Rate: $800/day

  • Cost: $1,600

  • Subtotal: $2,700

  • Buffer: $270

  • Testing Total: $2,970

3
Total Subcontractor
  • Pumping: $5,000
  • Testing: $2,970
  • Total: $7,970

Subcontractor Module Tipsโ€‹

๐Ÿ“‹Get Multiple Quotes

Always get 2-3 quotes for:

  • Pumping (if volume > 100 CY)
  • Joint sawing (if LF > 500)
  • Core drilling (if holes > 10)
  • Specialty services (post-tensioning, etc.)

Savings potential: 10-20% by comparing quotes

๐Ÿ“…Verify Quote Expiration

Subcontractor quotes typically valid for:

  • 30 days: Standard
  • 60 days: Large projects
  • 90 days: Long-term commitments

What to do:

  • Note expiration in item description
  • Reconfirm pricing if bid submission delayed
  • Get updated quotes if needed
๐ŸคBuild Vendor Relationships

Repeat business = better pricing:

  • Use same vendors when possible
  • Pay invoices promptly
  • Provide accurate volume estimates
  • Communicate schedule changes early

Result: Preferential pricing, priority scheduling

๐ŸššDon't Forget Mobilization

Some subs charge separately for:

  • Mobilization/demobilization
  • Equipment transport
  • Setup time

Ask: "Is mobilization included in your quote?"


Cost Rollupโ€‹

Subcontractor costs roll up like all modules:

Individual Subcontractor Item (with buffer)
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Scope Subcontractor Cost
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Scope Subcontractor Cost ร— Multiplier
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Bid Subcontractor Cost (sum all scopes)
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Apply Module Markups (overhead, profit)
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Bid Total

Typical Subcontractor % of Total Bidโ€‹

Job TypeSubcontractor %Main Services
Simple slab10-15%Pumping, sawing
Elevated deck15-25%Pumping, sawing, post-tension
High-rise20-30%Pumping, testing, specialty
Complex25-35%Multiple specialty subs

Common Subcontractor Mistakesโ€‹

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Avoid These Pitfalls:

MistakeImpactFix
Using expired quotesPrice no longer validVerify quote expiration, get new quote
Underestimating pump timePump sits idle, you payRound up hours, add setup time
Forgetting minimum hoursCost higher than expectedCheck vendor minimums
Not applying bufferQuote increases eat profitAlways apply 10-15% buffer
Skipping joint sawingSlab cracks randomlyCalculate joints based on spacing
Missing travel costsHidden $200-500 costAsk "Is travel included?"
Double-counting equipmentEquipment in two modulesSub-provided equipment NOT in Equipment Module

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